Winzerhof Müller

Winzerhof Thörle

Hölle Spätburgunder 2023

Lyle Fass
9.7

Completely glorious showing. Wide open from the start, with huge, kinked-out aromatics and beautiful, forward fruit that manages to be opulent without losing any precision. The palate is seamless, juicy and perfectly balanced, with terrific concentration, gorgeous texture and that almost absurd Thörle sense of engineering where everything is exactly where it should be. Not a hair out of place. Just a stunning, complete bottle of Spätburgunder and ridiculously beautiful to drink.

Day two confirms the 2023 Thörle Hölle Spätburgunder at 9.7, with the nose even more outrageous, easily 9.8 to 9.9, exploding with leather, spice cake, birthday-cake confectionery and this wildly perfumed, almost decadent aromatic intensity. The palate is juicy, deeply textured and beautifully pure, with velvety but still significant tannins, tangy 2023 fruit and tremendous concentration without losing elegance.

The inner-mouth aromatics are unbelievable now, and the wine has that wonderful 2023 combination of generosity and precision that you get in both Burgundy and Germany. Still obviously very young, but already extraordinarily complete. Tremendous wine, and 9.7 still feels exactly right.
— 5 days ago

Ira, Jay and 5 others liked this

Winzerhof Thörle

Hölle Riesling 2017

Lyle Fass
9.5

Stunningly confectionery and perfumed on the nose, with cotton candy, limestone, spice and a brown-sugar exoticism that turns almost spice-bazaar-like with air. The palate is juicy and ripe but still skeletal, architectural and bone dry, with terrific sap, density and mineral precision. Long, focused and beautifully mature, seemingly right in its prime drinking window. — 2 months ago

Jay, romo and 7 others liked this

Winzerhof Thörle

Saulheimer Kalkstein Riesling 2020

Lyle Fass
9.3

Austere, almost fruitless nose of dry limestone and intense mineral. The palate is far more generous, with juicy concentration, apricot, peach pit and terrific texture, all cut by huge acidity. Love the tension between the severe mineral exterior and the ripe fruit underneath. Finishes a little short, but this is serious, delicious and completely on the Kalkstein line. — 3 months ago

Daniel, Ira and 5 others liked this

Kettmeir

Alto Adige - Südtirol Müller-Thurgau

Loved it! @Liliana in Woodbury MN — 4 months ago

Egon Müller

Scharzhofberger Auslese Riesling

Unbelievable wonderment a true privilege to taste this 41 years growing season old vibrant late harvest sublime Reisling.. green bottle equals mosel Saar ruwer. Stunning. Fresh lively complex refreshing — 6 months ago

Winzerhof Thörle

Spätburgunder 2022

Zach D
9.3

Last drank 4 mo ago; aromas on this bottle are more intense than my previous notes. Lots of sappy red fruit, dark rose, and a lot of violets. Palate also sappy, with tart acid. Really a fantastic value at around 20 USD. Bought a case; will go well with Thanksgiving dinner. — a year ago

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Zach D

Zach D

Nice! Let me know what you think. This bottle was open for around 3 hours and the last glass was the best. Might think about decanting it.
Zach D

Zach D

@Dave if you like it I would recommend trying the single vineyard sites ie Probstey
Dave

Dave

Yeah, Probstey is what I was after but my supplier can only get his hands on this bottle. So I'll have to be happy with this for now. Glad you like it!

Egon Müller

Scharzhof Riesling 2023

Thrilling. Chiseled and precise. Energy and length. About 45 grams RS. — 12 days ago

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Egon Müller

Scharzhofberger Kabinett Riesling 2016

Drink je droomwijnen diner. @#rijks. Wow this is next level semi sweet Riesling. Dancing on its feet and untouchable. Like touching and smelling the virgin alpine snow on a blank slope. Very light sweetness, Riesling fruits and a surprisingly low degree of petroleum. Awesome. — a month ago

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Winzerhof Thörle

Probstey Silvaner 2024

Lyle Fass
9.7

Absolutely world-class white wine. The nose is pure and beautifully lifted, with clean limestone, subtle natural-world aromas and perfectly judged oak adding complexity without ever dominating. The palate is extraordinary: rich, saturating and powerful, yet tense, saline, nervous and completely precise. Tiny-berry fruit explosions emerge with air, framed by sweet mineral extract, tremendous grip, silky texture and unbelievable purity. Dense but never heavy, opulent but disciplined, with Grand Cru structure, refinement and a long, building, penetrating finish. This blows away an enormous amount of white Burgundy. One of the greatest Probsteys I have tasted. — 2 months ago

Zach, Pinotman and 3 others liked this

Borell Diehl

Müller-Thurgau 2024

Ted
8.9

Close enough. From Pfalz. Had it 3 days ago. Don’t remember anything bad or good. — 3 months ago

Jeni
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Tom, Shawn and 1 other liked this

Müller-Catoir

Haardter Herrenletten Spätlese Riesling 2001

Color is same as a very light rose, but this Spatlese is still very youthful on the palate, great acidity, really great with my wife’s blueberry/lemon log cake!! — 6 months ago

Jim PowersMonique
with Jim and Monique
Tom, Scott@Mister and 5 others liked this
Tom Casagrande

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Now, old Spatlese is something I have no anxiety about drinking!

Winzerhof Thörle

Probstey Riesling 2022

Lyle Fass
9.5

Lovely pithy fruits on the nose. Apricot, nectarine and stunning, wafting minerality. Palate is rich, Rheinhessen rich, but with bracing acidity and just such a generous texture. Showing so well cold and out of the gates. Let’s see what happens when it warms and gets air. Gorgeous wine and so generous with air. — 10 months ago

Ericsson, Ray and 6 others liked this

Enderle & Moll

Pur Müller Thurgau 2022

No funk whatsoever the orange wines of E&M all rock. — 2 years ago

Jakub liked this

Pojer e Sandri

Palai Vigneti delle Dolomiti IGT Müller-Thurgau 2024

Müller Thurgau! Pioneer producer makes high elevation work. Pale straw, a little green, highly aromatic w/peach, grapefruit &, lemon…. savory, nice salinity and refreshing finish. Herbal too. Wow. Anything but boring. — a month ago

Winzerhof Thörle

Probstey Spätburgunder 2019

Lyle Fass
9.7

Absolutely stunning out of the gates, with a deep, creamy nose of mid-season cherry, dark cherry, black cherry, raspberry spice cake, leather and a faint birthday-cake sweetness, all framed by beautifully integrated wood and a very clear limestone signature. The palate is a nuclear detonation of tiny-berry fruit, with extraordinary clarity, juiciness, freshness and energy, plus velvety, beautifully articulated tannins and outrageous inner-mouth aromas. There is an almost holographic intensity to the wine, as if every liquid molecule explodes with fruit and mineral detail. The sweetness and freshness are in remarkable balance, the finish is long and limestone-driven, and this has enormous upside potential toward 9.7 or even 9.8 as it continues to open.

After about 75 minutes this moved higher. The finish is epic, nearly two minutes long, with beautifully hierarchical layers of dark cherry fruit, limestone and serious, perfectly articulated tannin. Tremendous clarity, intensity and structure, with the fruit still absolutely detonating through the finish. Remarkable wine with easily another decade ahead of it. 9.6 to 9.7.
— a month ago

Ira, Zach and 4 others liked this

Winzerhof Thörle

Saulheimer Kalkstein Spätburgunder 2023

Lyle Fass
9.3

Quiet but very good nose of sour cherry, spice, flowers, a touch of reduction and something faintly like malted milk balls. The palate is where the wine lives, with huge acidity, tremendous tiny-berry concentration, real savor, density and all-red fruit. There is a Burgundy 2023-like chord progression to the fruit, with sweetness building through the mid-palate and a long, energetic finish. Powerful and impactful, almost GG-like in scale, but it lacks the finesse, polish, balance and purity of the 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022. Very good, but not one of the great vintages. — 3 months ago

Zach, Jay and 4 others liked this

Winzerhof Thörle

Réserve Chardonnay 2024

Like a top shelf Meursault but 50% off @ $42. Kiss of oak, touch Hazelnut. Mineral driven, lemon meringue. An exceptional Chard. Read the other reviews on different vintages they the reviews are solid no BS there! Chard from the right German producer blows the French out of the water for the price point they have right now. — 5 months ago

Brandon, Zach and 4 others liked this

Winzerhof Thörle

Saulheimer Hölle Trocken Spätburgunder 2020

Nose: midseason cherries. Spice. Maybe cloves.

With air some savoriness, lilacs. More Burgundian.

Palate : sweet midseason cherries. Hint of licorice. Bracing acidity.

In an odd place now. Not showing it’s usual exuberance. Let’s see where it goes.

Fass selections
— 2 years ago

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Enderle & Moll

Muschelkalk Müller Thurgau 2020

@Delectable Wine This is the Enderle & Moll Müller Thurgau Buntsandstein (not Muschelkalk). Beautiful skin fermented wine that is both floral and saline. Elegant and restrained. — 3 years ago

Daniel, Bob and 8 others liked this